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aspiration
04-26 03:31 PM
Its kind of confusing to make a one time donation.. and there should be two more options of $25 and $50 for one time contribution....
Can anyone tell me how to contribute one time and for the amount not mentioned on first page..
I think we should follow Hillary and Obama's grassroot campaign, whereby asking for smaller amount and that way make people more willing to contribute in smaller amounts...
Can anyone tell me how to contribute one time and for the amount not mentioned on first page..
I think we should follow Hillary and Obama's grassroot campaign, whereby asking for smaller amount and that way make people more willing to contribute in smaller amounts...
ghost
07-07 05:25 PM
[QUOTE=dixie]So what they say sounds valid in theory, but impossible in practise.
If USCIS takes 5 years to process an EB visa,how is anyone going to wait that long to hire a foreign worker ? And what is going to happen to a foreign student when he graduates ? go back home and return after 5 years ? Even allowing for significant reform, and assuming their "instant GC" proposal is really instant, I dont see a GC ever being processed in under 2 years anytime in the near future. QUOTE]
I agree with you, my first reaction too was that this is practically impossible. Bill Gates was suggesting the proposal of "Instant GC" for anyone who completes their Master's degree in US. So may be some day this will become a reality.
I dont know how they are going to deal with immediate family members in that scenario. This does not sound like a bad idea but not everyone is lucky enough to afford doing their Master's in US. A number of them come on H-1B visas. Bill Gates was not against H-1B program.
I think there is a general consensus that H-1B program is being abused by employers. IEEE is suggesting to wrap it up while others are suggesting to keep the program but fix it, by providing the flexibility based on the current market needs and enforcing tough monitoring on the employers.
I must agree that the document is a perfect representation of how the H-1B program is being abused, which is unfortunate!
If USCIS takes 5 years to process an EB visa,how is anyone going to wait that long to hire a foreign worker ? And what is going to happen to a foreign student when he graduates ? go back home and return after 5 years ? Even allowing for significant reform, and assuming their "instant GC" proposal is really instant, I dont see a GC ever being processed in under 2 years anytime in the near future. QUOTE]
I agree with you, my first reaction too was that this is practically impossible. Bill Gates was suggesting the proposal of "Instant GC" for anyone who completes their Master's degree in US. So may be some day this will become a reality.
I dont know how they are going to deal with immediate family members in that scenario. This does not sound like a bad idea but not everyone is lucky enough to afford doing their Master's in US. A number of them come on H-1B visas. Bill Gates was not against H-1B program.
I think there is a general consensus that H-1B program is being abused by employers. IEEE is suggesting to wrap it up while others are suggesting to keep the program but fix it, by providing the flexibility based on the current market needs and enforcing tough monitoring on the employers.
I must agree that the document is a perfect representation of how the H-1B program is being abused, which is unfortunate!
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piyu7444
03-20 08:34 PM
What can I say to you? I guess nuthing :)
Check this post # 9
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24470&highlight=transfer
And answer this may be I can learn something from you :)
Originally Posted by gapala
The H1B visa belongs, in effect, to the company that sponsors it. You cannot work for any other company on that visa other than sponsor. If this is a transfer, then, In a so-called "visa transfer" what actually happens is that the initial visa is cancelled in favor of another one issued for the new employer. What that means is OP's work with old employer is considered as "unauthorized work". Do not consider this as illegal presence, as his legal presence is controlled by a valid I-94.
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So in this case if I work for EMP A and apply for a h1b thru EMP B as soon as the EMP B's petition is approved I lose the approved peition with EMP A ??? COLOR]
Check this post # 9
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24470&highlight=transfer
And answer this may be I can learn something from you :)
Originally Posted by gapala
The H1B visa belongs, in effect, to the company that sponsors it. You cannot work for any other company on that visa other than sponsor. If this is a transfer, then, In a so-called "visa transfer" what actually happens is that the initial visa is cancelled in favor of another one issued for the new employer. What that means is OP's work with old employer is considered as "unauthorized work". Do not consider this as illegal presence, as his legal presence is controlled by a valid I-94.
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So in this case if I work for EMP A and apply for a h1b thru EMP B as soon as the EMP B's petition is approved I lose the approved peition with EMP A ??? COLOR]
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thepaew
05-30 11:53 AM
I find your quote to be insulting to a large group of persons, some of whom could be potential members of IV. If anyone had made such a comment about Telgu-speakers or Punjabi-speakers, there would be outrage.
Last I checked, this was not supposed to be desi-centric forum.
There is something with the french language it self. All the people who speak french as their native language, tend to be a$$holes, of varying degrees. This true of the french people and the francophone Quebec people inCanada and the French speaking Swiss. I say, stop flying AF, screw them. It is they who need us, not the other way round
Last I checked, this was not supposed to be desi-centric forum.
There is something with the french language it self. All the people who speak french as their native language, tend to be a$$holes, of varying degrees. This true of the french people and the francophone Quebec people inCanada and the French speaking Swiss. I say, stop flying AF, screw them. It is they who need us, not the other way round
chmur
07-18 06:06 PM
Sc3 and other friends. Here is what has triggered this bad blood on the forum
Apr VB EB2 is U and EB3 is doing well every one is normal exactly like every other VB no surge of threads and replies everything is normal
July VB Eb2 is in Apr 2004 and Eb3 is in U again every thing is normal
Aug VB Now suddenly Eb2 is 2006 and Eb3 is U ( no change) and all of a sudden there is a flood of e-mails complaining injustice against EB3. I think the timing of when Eb3 folks realized injuistice is what ticked off many.
I am not saying every one shares this feeling but just the sheer volumes of posting on this thread speaks for itself. I am sure many do not agree with me (or least pretent not to agree) Any one can query Eb3 injuistice posting before Aug VB and compare it since this bulletin was posted and see the data speaks for itself we do not need any body to prove anything
The DOS algorithm to allocate unalloted Visas in the last quarter has so far been inconsistent. In previous years it favored EB3 and now it is totally skewed in favour of EB2 . From the deposition of the DOS @ congress they think that this year's algorithm will be the model for years to come.
Now , obviously that is great for EB2 because EB2 will get the lion share/complete share of the spillover . But death knell for EB3.
EB3 will not get anymore ~3000 visas every year till EB2 becomes current.
This will starve EB3 badly , EB2 will be current most of the time and EB3 will in 2001-02 time frame. There is a possibility that 2008 EB2 filers might GC ahead of 2003 EB3 filers.
Starving any particular queue badly does not help the throughput of any system .
I hope DOS will realise this and change their algorithm accordingly.
Each countries quota is equally divided among all EB categories, IMO, The spill overs also should be equally divided among all the EB categories.
Apr VB EB2 is U and EB3 is doing well every one is normal exactly like every other VB no surge of threads and replies everything is normal
July VB Eb2 is in Apr 2004 and Eb3 is in U again every thing is normal
Aug VB Now suddenly Eb2 is 2006 and Eb3 is U ( no change) and all of a sudden there is a flood of e-mails complaining injustice against EB3. I think the timing of when Eb3 folks realized injuistice is what ticked off many.
I am not saying every one shares this feeling but just the sheer volumes of posting on this thread speaks for itself. I am sure many do not agree with me (or least pretent not to agree) Any one can query Eb3 injuistice posting before Aug VB and compare it since this bulletin was posted and see the data speaks for itself we do not need any body to prove anything
The DOS algorithm to allocate unalloted Visas in the last quarter has so far been inconsistent. In previous years it favored EB3 and now it is totally skewed in favour of EB2 . From the deposition of the DOS @ congress they think that this year's algorithm will be the model for years to come.
Now , obviously that is great for EB2 because EB2 will get the lion share/complete share of the spillover . But death knell for EB3.
EB3 will not get anymore ~3000 visas every year till EB2 becomes current.
This will starve EB3 badly , EB2 will be current most of the time and EB3 will in 2001-02 time frame. There is a possibility that 2008 EB2 filers might GC ahead of 2003 EB3 filers.
Starving any particular queue badly does not help the throughput of any system .
I hope DOS will realise this and change their algorithm accordingly.
Each countries quota is equally divided among all EB categories, IMO, The spill overs also should be equally divided among all the EB categories.
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nrakkati
03-21 03:28 PM
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
Again, Thanks a bunch Desi3933. My case is pretty much same as 'Scenario 1' in this Murthy document.
Desi3933 cleared the 99% of the cloud surrounded this issue by pointing to murthy.com (I maintained valid status with 'Employer #2' and this doc says I am good to go). Thank you very much Desi3933.
Apologize for extending the topic....but one of the 'still open' question is what if the Second Employer H1B is 'NEW' and what if it is 'Transfer'.
Murthy document does not say about the Company B H1B is NEW or TRANSFERRED.
If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
Many of you here said both are same. I assume so too. But, we haven't proved Gapala is wrong yet (no hard feelings gapala. it is not my intention to hurt you). if 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are different, Murthy should have mentioned in her Document, but she did not do that. So, can we safely assume, that 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are same.
Thank you everyone who responding to my post.
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
Again, Thanks a bunch Desi3933. My case is pretty much same as 'Scenario 1' in this Murthy document.
Desi3933 cleared the 99% of the cloud surrounded this issue by pointing to murthy.com (I maintained valid status with 'Employer #2' and this doc says I am good to go). Thank you very much Desi3933.
Apologize for extending the topic....but one of the 'still open' question is what if the Second Employer H1B is 'NEW' and what if it is 'Transfer'.
Murthy document does not say about the Company B H1B is NEW or TRANSFERRED.
If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
Many of you here said both are same. I assume so too. But, we haven't proved Gapala is wrong yet (no hard feelings gapala. it is not my intention to hurt you). if 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are different, Murthy should have mentioned in her Document, but she did not do that. So, can we safely assume, that 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are same.
Thank you everyone who responding to my post.
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snathan
07-22 12:43 PM
There is no such thing in the Indian Constitution as the "national language." You can either read the document yourself or you can refer to the recent (late June 2010) judgment by the Gujarat High Court to this effect.
There should be respect for all Indian languages. The more Indian languages you know, the more familiar you will become with India and Indian culture. Those who do not know Hindi need not rule it out from the list of other Indian languages they could learn. And the same can be said for any of Assamese, Marathi, Gujarati, Telugu, etc.
Exactly...I was getting irriated when people are forcing and telling that I should learn hindi. isnt my personal choice...?
There should be respect for all Indian languages. The more Indian languages you know, the more familiar you will become with India and Indian culture. Those who do not know Hindi need not rule it out from the list of other Indian languages they could learn. And the same can be said for any of Assamese, Marathi, Gujarati, Telugu, etc.
Exactly...I was getting irriated when people are forcing and telling that I should learn hindi. isnt my personal choice...?
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waitnwatch
05-30 07:04 PM
I thought only who have advanced degree from US universities in STEM with 3 yrs exp are exempt from quota. That's what the talk all over the media. I am not sure how this is going to be, because 3 years of US experience is not very hard criteria to meet for which some of the votings won't go well. But have to wait and see.
Here is what the amendment specifically says and this exempts all US Masters/Ph.Ds and foreign masters/Ph.D in STEM with 3 years experience.
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`(5) WORLDWIDE LEVEL FOR MERIT-BASED EMPLOYER-SPONSORED IMMIGRANTS.--
``(A) IN GENERAL.--The worldwide level of merit-based employer-sponsored immigrants under this paragraph for a fiscal year is equal to--
``(i) 140,000, plus
``(ii) the number computed under subparagraph (B).
``(B) ADDITIONAL NUMBER.--
``(i) FISCAL YEAR 2007.--The number computed under this subparagraph for fiscal year 2007 is zero.
``(ii) FISCAL YEAR 2008.--The number computed under this subparagraph for fiscal year 2008 is the difference (if any) between the worldwide level established under subparagraph (A) for the previous fiscal year and the number of visas issued under section 203(b)(2) during that fiscal year.''.
In section 501, insert after subsection (b) the following:
(c) Providing Exemptions From Merit-Based Levels for Very Highly Skilled Immigrants.--Section 201(b)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (as amended by section 503(a)) (8 U.S.C. 1151(b)(1)) is further amended by inserting after subparagraph (G) the following:
``(H) Aliens who have earned a master's or higher degree from a United States institution of higher education, as such term is defined in section 101(a) of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1001(a)).
``(I) Aliens who have earned a master's degree or higher degree in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics and have been working in a related field in the United States in a nonimmigrant status during the 3-year period preceding their application for an immigrant visa under section 203(b).
``(J) Aliens who--
``(i) have extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics which has been demonstrated by sustained national or international acclaim and whose achievements have been recognized in the field through extensive documentation; and
``(ii) seek to enter the United States to continue work in the area of extraordinary ability.
``(K) Aliens who--
``(i) are recognized internationally as outstanding in a specific academic area;
``(ii) have at least 3 years of experience in teaching or research in the academic area; and
``(iii) who seek to enter the United States for--
``(I) a tenured position (or tenure-track position) within an institution of higher education to teach in the academic area;
``(II) a comparable position with an institution of higher education to conduct research in the area; or
``(III) a comparable position to conduct research in the area with a department, division, or institute of a private employer, if the department, division, or institute employs at least 3 persons full-time in research activities and has achieved documented accomplishments in an academic field.
``(L) Aliens who--
``(i) in the 3-year period preceding their application for an immigrant visa under section 203(b), have been employed for at least 1 year by a firm or corporation or other legal entity or an affiliate or subsidiary thereof; and
``(ii) who seek to enter the United States in order to continue to render services to the same employer or to a subsidiary or affiliate thereof in a capacity that is managerial or executive.
``(M) The immediate relatives of an alien who is admitted as a merit-based employer-sponsored immigrant under subsection 203(b)(2).''.
Strike section 418(c)(1).
Strike section 419(a) and insert the following:
Here is what the amendment specifically says and this exempts all US Masters/Ph.Ds and foreign masters/Ph.D in STEM with 3 years experience.
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`(5) WORLDWIDE LEVEL FOR MERIT-BASED EMPLOYER-SPONSORED IMMIGRANTS.--
``(A) IN GENERAL.--The worldwide level of merit-based employer-sponsored immigrants under this paragraph for a fiscal year is equal to--
``(i) 140,000, plus
``(ii) the number computed under subparagraph (B).
``(B) ADDITIONAL NUMBER.--
``(i) FISCAL YEAR 2007.--The number computed under this subparagraph for fiscal year 2007 is zero.
``(ii) FISCAL YEAR 2008.--The number computed under this subparagraph for fiscal year 2008 is the difference (if any) between the worldwide level established under subparagraph (A) for the previous fiscal year and the number of visas issued under section 203(b)(2) during that fiscal year.''.
In section 501, insert after subsection (b) the following:
(c) Providing Exemptions From Merit-Based Levels for Very Highly Skilled Immigrants.--Section 201(b)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (as amended by section 503(a)) (8 U.S.C. 1151(b)(1)) is further amended by inserting after subparagraph (G) the following:
``(H) Aliens who have earned a master's or higher degree from a United States institution of higher education, as such term is defined in section 101(a) of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1001(a)).
``(I) Aliens who have earned a master's degree or higher degree in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics and have been working in a related field in the United States in a nonimmigrant status during the 3-year period preceding their application for an immigrant visa under section 203(b).
``(J) Aliens who--
``(i) have extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics which has been demonstrated by sustained national or international acclaim and whose achievements have been recognized in the field through extensive documentation; and
``(ii) seek to enter the United States to continue work in the area of extraordinary ability.
``(K) Aliens who--
``(i) are recognized internationally as outstanding in a specific academic area;
``(ii) have at least 3 years of experience in teaching or research in the academic area; and
``(iii) who seek to enter the United States for--
``(I) a tenured position (or tenure-track position) within an institution of higher education to teach in the academic area;
``(II) a comparable position with an institution of higher education to conduct research in the area; or
``(III) a comparable position to conduct research in the area with a department, division, or institute of a private employer, if the department, division, or institute employs at least 3 persons full-time in research activities and has achieved documented accomplishments in an academic field.
``(L) Aliens who--
``(i) in the 3-year period preceding their application for an immigrant visa under section 203(b), have been employed for at least 1 year by a firm or corporation or other legal entity or an affiliate or subsidiary thereof; and
``(ii) who seek to enter the United States in order to continue to render services to the same employer or to a subsidiary or affiliate thereof in a capacity that is managerial or executive.
``(M) The immediate relatives of an alien who is admitted as a merit-based employer-sponsored immigrant under subsection 203(b)(2).''.
Strike section 418(c)(1).
Strike section 419(a) and insert the following:
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prashantkh
07-17 04:17 PM
Do you guys think its worthwhile to go back instead of trying waiting for the retrogression to end. From the looks of it, i doubt there is any chance of an immigration bill before the elections. if there is no bill then we will end up waiting for 8-10 years for the dates to be current.
if they remove the US masters from the quota, imagine the rush it will cause in the universities, effectively it will imply that you will get a green card after you study for 2 years in US. take a 20-40k loan and get a GC. There is no country quota for F1. i had friends who were rejected for F1 because they were 'potential immigrants' wonder how this theme will play out in future.
from this shore returning back seems to be an alternative worth considering...or maybe its just todays depression talking.
Another perspective is that if people with Masters or higher degree are exempted from the EB quota, it will in fact help in moving the priority dates current, since there are lot of people in wait who already have advanced degree from US universities and won't be using up the visa from the EB quota.
PK
if they remove the US masters from the quota, imagine the rush it will cause in the universities, effectively it will imply that you will get a green card after you study for 2 years in US. take a 20-40k loan and get a GC. There is no country quota for F1. i had friends who were rejected for F1 because they were 'potential immigrants' wonder how this theme will play out in future.
from this shore returning back seems to be an alternative worth considering...or maybe its just todays depression talking.
Another perspective is that if people with Masters or higher degree are exempted from the EB quota, it will in fact help in moving the priority dates current, since there are lot of people in wait who already have advanced degree from US universities and won't be using up the visa from the EB quota.
PK
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rayoflight
05-20 12:00 PM
Thank You munnabhai, geevikram, uffyegc, piyushvora, Caliber, new2gc for your support
Way to go sugaur!!!
You bowled us over :)
Way to go sugaur!!!
You bowled us over :)
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02-15 02:10 PM
Ah, just one more... takes me to 153... hopefully I will get some more this afternoon.
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anukcs
09-13 03:49 PM
whats with the quotes...comparing to Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr...Please dont kid yourself.
They did it for their country and fellowmen to be free from the clutches of oppression (a much serious issue than green card i think). Although even that is extended selfishness (cos of being Indian or African American) but they dedicated their entire lives for that cause.
We are not even close...this is just for MY GREEN CARD!
am i wrong?
Don't you think you are not free from the clutches. If getting some green card relieves so many people from clutches why not fight for it?
They did it for their country and fellowmen to be free from the clutches of oppression (a much serious issue than green card i think). Although even that is extended selfishness (cos of being Indian or African American) but they dedicated their entire lives for that cause.
We are not even close...this is just for MY GREEN CARD!
am i wrong?
Don't you think you are not free from the clutches. If getting some green card relieves so many people from clutches why not fight for it?
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santb1975
02-26 12:19 PM
I will be collecting some letters on Pioneer this weekend. Hopefully I can raise so.cal count from 34.
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H4_losing_hope
02-26 10:49 PM
Few of my friends (5) mailed their letters over the weekend. This takes my total to 14 (confirmed). Quite a few have promised they'll mail it, need to track them!!!
Lets go for the final stretch!!!
Let's do it IV!
Lets go for the final stretch!!!
Let's do it IV!
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bondgoli007
12-10 02:31 PM
Good to see and hear about the pros and cons of Logiclife's post. Both sides are valid and rightful in their own way...
However there are goals that need to be achieved for this grassroots organization and it is just not viable for just a few dedicated people to achieve it. Is it wrong on their part to appeal/call out for help? By the way this is not for the benefit of just a few people. Whoever comes to this website will be benefited by the outcome of the efforts.
No one is demanding anyone to just volunteer. Logiclife's post might have shown emotion and for members like Ram (with all due respect) it might have seemed unprofessional....but this is not a corporation which is run on a profit/loss basis. It is a people's organization solely to benefit the members. Emotion and dedication are a major part of its survival. I am not a leader but I do my minimum.
1. Contribute financially.
2. Spread awareness among friends and acquaintances in similar position.
I respect all the people who responded because I am sure they might have contributed in some way. For the others, please do more than visit the site for just updates.
However there are goals that need to be achieved for this grassroots organization and it is just not viable for just a few dedicated people to achieve it. Is it wrong on their part to appeal/call out for help? By the way this is not for the benefit of just a few people. Whoever comes to this website will be benefited by the outcome of the efforts.
No one is demanding anyone to just volunteer. Logiclife's post might have shown emotion and for members like Ram (with all due respect) it might have seemed unprofessional....but this is not a corporation which is run on a profit/loss basis. It is a people's organization solely to benefit the members. Emotion and dedication are a major part of its survival. I am not a leader but I do my minimum.
1. Contribute financially.
2. Spread awareness among friends and acquaintances in similar position.
I respect all the people who responded because I am sure they might have contributed in some way. For the others, please do more than visit the site for just updates.
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mirage
07-05 09:12 AM
Guys,
They are going to reject all applications. They want more money. The whole issue with July bulletin was More Money. DOS wanted USCIS to take 1000s of application in july. But USCIS fought back saying no way in july. We'll not take 1 application in july. We want more money...money .... money...
They are going to reject all applications. They want more money. The whole issue with July bulletin was More Money. DOS wanted USCIS to take 1000s of application in july. But USCIS fought back saying no way in july. We'll not take 1 application in july. We want more money...money .... money...
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mheggade
07-15 03:46 PM
I am assuming that EB2 India will have a cut-off date of atleast June 2006 for Aug as well as Sep. The time window of approvals is Aug 1 2008 to Sep 30 2008. In this time frame, they will have to pull the files from shelves and make them ready for adjudication.
I also remember from I-485 field SOP, that first step is to contact US Consulate abroad where you filled your DS-156 if you traveled within last 12 months for any discrepancy. This step itself can take a long time.
Then there are a lot of people who had PD current but they haven't done finger-printing yet. Imagine time required to schedule fingerprints, appear for one, and then get the results.
Just my thoughts.
This is any body's guess.
However , on the normal course you would think USCIS should start doing the Prep work like getting the files from ware house to production line as soon as they have the Visa bulletin is published.
I also remember from I-485 field SOP, that first step is to contact US Consulate abroad where you filled your DS-156 if you traveled within last 12 months for any discrepancy. This step itself can take a long time.
Then there are a lot of people who had PD current but they haven't done finger-printing yet. Imagine time required to schedule fingerprints, appear for one, and then get the results.
Just my thoughts.
This is any body's guess.
However , on the normal course you would think USCIS should start doing the Prep work like getting the files from ware house to production line as soon as they have the Visa bulletin is published.
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nogc_noproblem
04-25 10:56 PM
Earlier I used google checkout for contribution but now I could not see that option. Not sure whether I am missing something, could anybody direct me to the relevant page where I can make the contribution through google checkout?
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houston2005
06-10 09:36 AM
Senator Hilary Clinton introduced an amendment to exempt apllicant's dependents from visa quotos, which will reduce the retrogression signifcantly, why Core choose the Coryn's not supporting Hilary Clinton's? She is very likly to be our future president.
Her amendment realted to FB based and not to EB based.
PS: I am not from IV core
Her amendment realted to FB based and not to EB based.
PS: I am not from IV core
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