senthil1
05-31 03:09 PM
Last few lines of this artice is clear about Senate mood. Even IV wants to lobby sepeately for gc numbers IV has to come up with reasonable numbers based on requirement. Arbitary numbers or blanket exemptions will have more chance for failure.
But unless they can prove that they system is not currently being abused, and unless they can come up with specific figures for the number of visas required, they will have a hard time persuading lawmakers that the cap needs to be raised beyond the current proposal of 115,000.
http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2007/05/21/outsourcing-immigration-congress-oped-cx_bw_0523legislate.html
What you are saying is a high level picture of what the lawmakers think.
Instead of asking reasonable numbers asking for no cap.
True that the tech companies are not comming up with a cap because they believe by saying this, they might be restricted for many years to bring in extra people if they have an opening.
Before dot com bust even lot of US citizens welcomed H1b persons as there was not much layoffs. But past 7 years layoffs increased to outsource to India,China and other countries. For that they have to hire H1b and L1 persons from Countries mainly India. Those things made anti immigrants hardened their stand. US workers fear that they may lose job if US opens up immigration too much.
How did the anti-immigrants get a upper hand on this. They are allowing illegals to get an easy path to citizenship.. this will cause a huge influx of people who will benefit the economy but down the line their children will take up the jobs of the americans.. so why a benefit to illegals.
Now you would say that there are so many companies lobbying for the illegals,
true but why don't they listen to the tech lobbyist who are few in number but asking what is actually,legally, abide rulles ly necessary to increase the economy.
But unless they can prove that they system is not currently being abused, and unless they can come up with specific figures for the number of visas required, they will have a hard time persuading lawmakers that the cap needs to be raised beyond the current proposal of 115,000.
http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2007/05/21/outsourcing-immigration-congress-oped-cx_bw_0523legislate.html
What you are saying is a high level picture of what the lawmakers think.
Instead of asking reasonable numbers asking for no cap.
True that the tech companies are not comming up with a cap because they believe by saying this, they might be restricted for many years to bring in extra people if they have an opening.
Before dot com bust even lot of US citizens welcomed H1b persons as there was not much layoffs. But past 7 years layoffs increased to outsource to India,China and other countries. For that they have to hire H1b and L1 persons from Countries mainly India. Those things made anti immigrants hardened their stand. US workers fear that they may lose job if US opens up immigration too much.
How did the anti-immigrants get a upper hand on this. They are allowing illegals to get an easy path to citizenship.. this will cause a huge influx of people who will benefit the economy but down the line their children will take up the jobs of the americans.. so why a benefit to illegals.
Now you would say that there are so many companies lobbying for the illegals,
true but why don't they listen to the tech lobbyist who are few in number but asking what is actually,legally, abide rulles ly necessary to increase the economy.
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aeroterp
07-07 01:16 PM
By exempt, you mean exempt from the cap, right? Does this mean that you still need an employer to sponsor you even if you have an advanced degree? Or can you self-petition as in the CIR?
ghost
07-07 05:25 PM
[QUOTE=dixie]So what they say sounds valid in theory, but impossible in practise.
If USCIS takes 5 years to process an EB visa,how is anyone going to wait that long to hire a foreign worker ? And what is going to happen to a foreign student when he graduates ? go back home and return after 5 years ? Even allowing for significant reform, and assuming their "instant GC" proposal is really instant, I dont see a GC ever being processed in under 2 years anytime in the near future. QUOTE]
I agree with you, my first reaction too was that this is practically impossible. Bill Gates was suggesting the proposal of "Instant GC" for anyone who completes their Master's degree in US. So may be some day this will become a reality.
I dont know how they are going to deal with immediate family members in that scenario. This does not sound like a bad idea but not everyone is lucky enough to afford doing their Master's in US. A number of them come on H-1B visas. Bill Gates was not against H-1B program.
I think there is a general consensus that H-1B program is being abused by employers. IEEE is suggesting to wrap it up while others are suggesting to keep the program but fix it, by providing the flexibility based on the current market needs and enforcing tough monitoring on the employers.
I must agree that the document is a perfect representation of how the H-1B program is being abused, which is unfortunate!
If USCIS takes 5 years to process an EB visa,how is anyone going to wait that long to hire a foreign worker ? And what is going to happen to a foreign student when he graduates ? go back home and return after 5 years ? Even allowing for significant reform, and assuming their "instant GC" proposal is really instant, I dont see a GC ever being processed in under 2 years anytime in the near future. QUOTE]
I agree with you, my first reaction too was that this is practically impossible. Bill Gates was suggesting the proposal of "Instant GC" for anyone who completes their Master's degree in US. So may be some day this will become a reality.
I dont know how they are going to deal with immediate family members in that scenario. This does not sound like a bad idea but not everyone is lucky enough to afford doing their Master's in US. A number of them come on H-1B visas. Bill Gates was not against H-1B program.
I think there is a general consensus that H-1B program is being abused by employers. IEEE is suggesting to wrap it up while others are suggesting to keep the program but fix it, by providing the flexibility based on the current market needs and enforcing tough monitoring on the employers.
I must agree that the document is a perfect representation of how the H-1B program is being abused, which is unfortunate!
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rajuram
06-09 12:52 AM
It is very easy to write but difficult to do. Except for IV folks there are hardly any fighters out there for our cause. We have all seen the result....CIR that favors ill-legals but decreases visa numbers for the EB cases.
You may also say ... In this country, no one gives it to you. You have to fight for it. :rolleyes:
You may also say ... In this country, no one gives it to you. You have to fight for it. :rolleyes:
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vxb2004
06-25 07:56 PM
Yesterday I received my approved EAD card in 25 days from date of application (paper filing) from TSC
sc3
09-12 07:15 PM
23 (out of 31) of the co-sponsors for HR 5882 are Dems. not to mention the main sponsor is also Dem.
I did not say all of the dems, by same token not all republicans support immigration (legal or otherwise).
What I am saying is that generally, republicans have (even if it is to spite the efforts of people pushing illegal immigration) been more supportive of legal than illegal immigration.
While many democrats have been supportive, the one of the main reasons for the delay are the dems themselves, their crappy CHC, who dont want to allow any immigration bill till the illegals are elevated on the pedestal. The Dem leadership have put the immigration issue a hostage to the whims of CHC.
I did not say all of the dems, by same token not all republicans support immigration (legal or otherwise).
What I am saying is that generally, republicans have (even if it is to spite the efforts of people pushing illegal immigration) been more supportive of legal than illegal immigration.
While many democrats have been supportive, the one of the main reasons for the delay are the dems themselves, their crappy CHC, who dont want to allow any immigration bill till the illegals are elevated on the pedestal. The Dem leadership have put the immigration issue a hostage to the whims of CHC.
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pappu
03-05 08:46 AM
This is a good first step in this direction after our campaign for FOIA last year. If we can get the data we need, prediction on date movement and getting the clear picture on pending applications should be easy.
I personally feel 5K is too much to charge, but if this is what it takes I think we should pursue it. Lobbying for it may have cost more. We need to get more information about this and if everyone agrees we can raise funds and pay for one request to take it forward.
I personally feel 5K is too much to charge, but if this is what it takes I think we should pursue it. Lobbying for it may have cost more. We need to get more information about this and if everyone agrees we can raise funds and pay for one request to take it forward.
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mariner5555
03-16 07:02 AM
the good point is that lot of people till end 2003 got their GC's in states like georgia. I guess many people in states like california must have gone to EB2 or gone back to their countries. lot of companies closed their shops but at the same time there was lot of labor substitution. I guess at this point EB3 - (I) cannot do much except pray and sleep(and hope one of the advisors to the president / congressmen tell them that more or speedy legal immigration actually helps US (in housing / SSN mess / medicare / tech innovation / outsourcing etc etc).
I was talking to a manager (naturalized citizen) of a top company and he said the same ..baby boomers are /will be retiring and you will see more old people in usa rather than youngsters - this is the most important advantage that countries like china and India have (young population).
as EB2(I) and world wide dates starts to move ahead - I guess future support to IV (or any campaigns) would continue to diminish
I was talking to a manager (naturalized citizen) of a top company and he said the same ..baby boomers are /will be retiring and you will see more old people in usa rather than youngsters - this is the most important advantage that countries like china and India have (young population).
as EB2(I) and world wide dates starts to move ahead - I guess future support to IV (or any campaigns) would continue to diminish
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amitjoey
06-14 01:29 PM
Friends,
Ofcourse everyone is very excited that the priority dates are current but let's take a careful look for why it became current all of a sudden even when the demand for visa numbers is so high and was backlogged by 5 years up until couple of months ago.
1. I sincerely feel this is just to keep the legal immigrants to stop protesting for benefits in the CIR. Well, the CIR is supposed to be dead right? Wrong, count 2 weeks from now and the Bill will be back with tons of benefits for Illegal aliens and none for legals.
2. Currently Service centers are processing cases received in Aug-Sept. '06 with the few thousands of applications being submitted for the next few weeks the processing dates will be moved back by couple of years. All this time we were waiting for the priority dates and now will wait for the processing dates to be advanced. What a circus!!!
3. Just when the case is ready for processing that would be atleast couple of years from now, the priority dates will be retrogressed may be by 10 years this time.
To my knoweledge we should still continue to lobby the senators and get the Visa numbers increased, get the country quota eliminated, Only one visa should be counted per family... and get it into the CIR. Should the CIR pass without these ammendments legal immigrants will be stuck in limbo for every because there will be no more CIRs in the near future.
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CaliGC
YES!!. Perfect analysis. You are right!. The fight is ON!. It is just that members need to get this filing for 485 out of their way. But lets not get distracted too much and keep an eye on any legislation comming up.
Ofcourse everyone is very excited that the priority dates are current but let's take a careful look for why it became current all of a sudden even when the demand for visa numbers is so high and was backlogged by 5 years up until couple of months ago.
1. I sincerely feel this is just to keep the legal immigrants to stop protesting for benefits in the CIR. Well, the CIR is supposed to be dead right? Wrong, count 2 weeks from now and the Bill will be back with tons of benefits for Illegal aliens and none for legals.
2. Currently Service centers are processing cases received in Aug-Sept. '06 with the few thousands of applications being submitted for the next few weeks the processing dates will be moved back by couple of years. All this time we were waiting for the priority dates and now will wait for the processing dates to be advanced. What a circus!!!
3. Just when the case is ready for processing that would be atleast couple of years from now, the priority dates will be retrogressed may be by 10 years this time.
To my knoweledge we should still continue to lobby the senators and get the Visa numbers increased, get the country quota eliminated, Only one visa should be counted per family... and get it into the CIR. Should the CIR pass without these ammendments legal immigrants will be stuck in limbo for every because there will be no more CIRs in the near future.
TIA
CaliGC
YES!!. Perfect analysis. You are right!. The fight is ON!. It is just that members need to get this filing for 485 out of their way. But lets not get distracted too much and keep an eye on any legislation comming up.
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Canadian_Dream
03-21 01:41 PM
Desi,
Time and again I have noticed that you backed your suggestions with relevant documents. I for one, commend you for the work you do on this forum. I was almost thinking this case might set a precedent for dormant H1B, but apparently not. The other information that you provided on the other forum that was completely new to me was, when you pulled out the document regarding GC for the child of permanent resident born abroad.
Thank you for good work.
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
Time and again I have noticed that you backed your suggestions with relevant documents. I for one, commend you for the work you do on this forum. I was almost thinking this case might set a precedent for dormant H1B, but apparently not. The other information that you provided on the other forum that was completely new to me was, when you pulled out the document regarding GC for the child of permanent resident born abroad.
Thank you for good work.
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
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H4_losing_hope
02-21 11:52 AM
Just received confirmation of 4 more letters which takes me to 200!! Going to shoot for 250 and will send most of these new ones to NORCAL, will send final batch close to March 1st. Keep them coming folks.
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walking_dude
10-18 04:17 PM
PMed a reminder to every member ,who has shown interest in the meet, but has not RSVP'ed yet for the final count needed for Snacks/Tea arrangement ( only those included in the confirmed list of the first message).
Hope to see you all there.
Hope to see you all there.
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walking_dude
10-04 03:59 PM
Put a message in MI India ( a site visited by lots of Indians in MI)
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Keep it at the top by posting replies
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sanju
06-19 10:20 PM
Hello mmandal,
Many of us who visit IV forums everyday know that snethil1 is an idiot. I would highly recommend more people to add him to your ignore list, just as I did. I read his post because you quoted him in your post. Otherwise his posts do not even show up on my screen. He and his posts are inconsequential if you add him to your ignore list.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
This guy's a congenital pessimist.
Companies were vague on numbers. So how could they satisfy Senators. I knew only a few companies gave detail about open positions including Microsoft, Intel and oracle. How you can impress Senate or house? But anti immigrants gave all the layoff numbers, h1b numbers used and details of abuses happened for past few years. It is not just money power will win. With facts and numbers if you have money power then you can win. That is reason for past 3 years H1b numbers or GC numbers were not increased inspite of heavy lobbying.
Many of us who visit IV forums everyday know that snethil1 is an idiot. I would highly recommend more people to add him to your ignore list, just as I did. I read his post because you quoted him in your post. Otherwise his posts do not even show up on my screen. He and his posts are inconsequential if you add him to your ignore list.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
This guy's a congenital pessimist.
Companies were vague on numbers. So how could they satisfy Senators. I knew only a few companies gave detail about open positions including Microsoft, Intel and oracle. How you can impress Senate or house? But anti immigrants gave all the layoff numbers, h1b numbers used and details of abuses happened for past few years. It is not just money power will win. With facts and numbers if you have money power then you can win. That is reason for past 3 years H1b numbers or GC numbers were not increased inspite of heavy lobbying.
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senthil1
12-04 07:09 PM
The visa restrictions, Cap and rules for H1 and H4 all were framed to protect American jobs. If H4 is given work permit then there is a fear that one more job may be taken from the American people. I am not telling it is correct but everyone are in that situation. Also we cannot resolve all the issues. L2 can work H4 cannot work is discrepancy. But one person working in a home will not have any stress especially when there is kid. We have to consider this is an advantage
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ramaonline
06-10 02:25 AM
Unless Congress provides the necessary funding for managing the millions of applications under MBS along with Y visa, Z visa, new family based petitions etc etc, anyone would agree that the total time to get a green card will not be less than 9 years regardless of how many points you have or how early you filed for ur GC.
The current gc backlogged applicants have already gone thru 5 years of never-ending wait time - this will increase by another 9 years.
The current gc backlogged applicants have already gone thru 5 years of never-ending wait time - this will increase by another 9 years.
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Libra
11-15 12:11 PM
Guys, instead of fasting, protesting or marching, join state chapters and form big groups and then meet lawmakers. Request them for recapturing wasted visa numbers and removal of per country quota. this will solve most of our problems.
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ajay
03-05 09:07 AM
This letter came to me also y'day dated 2/24/09.
If everybody agrees on pledging some money towards it, I also can contribute to it.
If everybody agrees on pledging some money towards it, I also can contribute to it.
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bestin
10-18 02:03 PM
Bestin I've sent you a PM. Please check it and respond ASAP.
Thanks.Thanks
Responded back..BTB i dont have any appointments tomorrow.So i ll be at home.Pls dont hesitate to ask for any help.I can try my best
Thanks.Thanks
Responded back..BTB i dont have any appointments tomorrow.So i ll be at home.Pls dont hesitate to ask for any help.I can try my best
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07-26 08:06 PM
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